Chris Masterjohn, PhD, explains measuring urine pH

This is a brief chapter out of the middle of an ongoing story. I'm not ready to tell the whole story yet, but I'm ready to write a first draft of this chapter and share it with you.

I'm still in the midst of this experiment, so what I have here isn't a finished protocol or a set of firm recommendations. Nevertheless, this has been so game-changing for me that I have to share it and I know doing so will help some of you.

Background: The Mold and Barium Crisis

Earlier this year, I found myself in the midst of a health crisis that I have so far traced to toxic levels of barium and to mold that was growing inside the damaged walls and floorboards of my old apartment. One of the complications of this was a voracious fungal infection. I had to stop working out because working out did two things that made everything worse: 1) it taxed my energy supply when I was using every last bit of my energy to fight off the infection, and 2) it created sweat on the surface of my skin that fueled the fungal growth.

I had stopped working out for several months during this time and lost a lot of muscle mass.

Moving and Starting to Work out Again

I moved into a new apartment and took several other major measures to gain my health back that are all parts of other chapters in the story, to be told later.

After I moved, I started working out again to try to mitigate the loss of muscle mass in hopes of putting some of it back on as I got healthier.

My goal was to obtain maximal anabolic stimulus with minimal metabolic stress. Metabolic stress on the muscle is part of the anabolic stimulus you get from working out and any type of workout causes some level of metabolic stress. So, I was carefully balancing two opposing priorities in hopes of finding a sweet spot that would allow the greatest retention of muscle mass without interfering with my healing.

As I covered in lesson 17 of my course on energy metabolism, creatine phosphate levels prevent ATP levels from falling during intense exercise, but once you reach fatigue, they take at least 3-4 minutes to get back up. So, I programmed a full-body workout based on three sets of ten reps for the exercises, with 3-4 minutes rest between each set, and I rested for five days between each workout.

Even though most of my workout was rest, it was stressful enough that it would require several hours of laying down and doing nothing afterward and tended to set back the healing of my residual skin problems for about two days.

An entirely different problem that came out of the barium/mold crisis was a chronic tendency towards acidosis that led to twitching symptoms that were largely managed by eating large amounts of potassium, and avoiding alcohol, carbonated water, and other acidic drinks. A few weeks after I started working out again, I added supplementation with baking soda to this list. Although it proved tremendously helpful initially, I soon found it aggravating my problems when I would overdo the dose, and that's when I decided to start measuring my urine pH.

Urine pH: The Initial Findings

“Normal” urine pH is 5.5-8.0. Optimal urine pH is probably 6.4-6.8 during most of the day.

I started with pH strips that gave readings between 5.5-8.0.

I started testing on the evening of July 31. I had overdosed on bicarbonate and pushed my urine pH at or above 8.0. I cut out the bicarbonate and it fell to 5.8 by the end of the evening. The next day, it was 6.6 when I woke up, but it quickly fell below 5.5. It was too acidic for me to measure with the strips I bought.

I ordered strips in the 3.0-5.5 range that came in at the end of the day.

My Workout Laid Me Out and Pushed Me into Acidosis

The next day, I woke up with a pH of 5.0 and took 1/4 teaspoon bicarbonate, which brought it up to 5.8 within an hour (the full effect tends to take several hours for me). Then I did a workout, and came home with a pH of 5.5, at 1:20 PM. I took another 1/4 teaspoon bicarbonate, but my pH didn't budge. I took another 1/4 teaspoon of bicarbonate, and my pH dropped to 5.0. I took a third 1/4 teaspoon of bicarbonate at 5:35 PM (my fourth that day, if you count the dose I took when I woke up), and finally my pH rose to 6.0. It fell back to 5.8 after a couple of hours and stayed there till I went to bed.

Two things are rather remarkable from this one experiment.

First of all, I took a full teaspoon of bicarbonate that day when totaled together, which is about how much I had taken the day before when my pH hit 8.0 or higher. The workout, designed to minimize metabolic stress, must have been profoundly stressful since it plunged my urine pH into strong acidity for the rest of the day despite the multiple doses of bicarbonate. What would the pH have been had I not taken any bicarbonate at all? Probably much more acidic.

Second, my workout floored me. I wound up laying in bed for hours, napping during part of the time. Around 6:00 PM I suddenly sprung out of bed full of energy and ready to work. I had taken my fourth dose of bicarbonate that day about 25 minutes earlier. I measured my urine pH right after jumping out of bed to find that it hit 6.0 for the first time all day. Although it could have been coincidence, the sudden spike of energy and well being corresponded stunningly to the change in my urine pH.

Optimizing the Dose of Bicarbonate

In the first couple of weeks of August, I collected hundreds of urine pH measurements during experiments to optimize the dose of bicarbonate. I will publish the data later when I have it better organized and can explain it more fully.

My tentative conclusions are as follows:

  • On rest days, I need 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda upon waking, then another 1/4 teaspoon about 12 hours later.
  • On workout days, I need 1/2 teaspoon upon waking. Then, within two hours, I begin my workout with 1/2 teaspoon dissolved in one of my water bottles. Since the bicarbonate takes a while to circulate through my system, I drink the bottle with bicarbonate first, and then drink plain water after that if I need more.

This has been nothing short of game-changing:

I have not crashed once, not one single time, at all, after any of my workouts since implementing this regimen.

Supplementing With Creatine

After I determined the bicarbonate dosing schedule that I needed to stabilize the pH response to my workouts, I tested the effect of creatine loading on my pH stability. Creatine is a buffer both of the ATP supply and the pH of muscle tissue. Even buffering the ATP supply itself will add to the pH buffering because it will prevent the need to generate lactate.

For five days, I took a total of 20 grams of Optimum Nutrition Micronized Creatine Powder divided as 5 grams with each of four meals. Then I dropped it to a 5 gram per day maintenance dose.

I didn't find that it had any clear effect on my urine pH, but it made me feel more energized and stronger in the gym, so I'm staying on it for now.

The creatine I'm using has a purity of 99.9%. I may switch to Creapure when I finish this bottle, which has a purity of 99.99%, but I haven't experienced any negative effects of the one I'm taking now.

How This Revolutionized My Workouts

Since optimizing this regimen, far more has changed than simply not crashing:

  • Instead of working out once every five days, I now workout two days on, one day off, for a total of four to five days a week.
  • I am no longer sticking religiously to 3 minute rests. In fact, sometimes I superset exercises for several sets without any rest at all.
  • I am generally in the gym for two hour sessions, just like I was when I was doing a full body workout once every five days, so breaking up my workouts to 4-5 times per week means I am doing at least 4-5 times the work I was doing just a week ago.
  • So, I'm now doing 4-5 times the work without crashing that two weeks ago put me in bed for three hours and required five days of rest.
  • For the first time all year, I love working out. I get out of the gym excited to go back next time.

I attribute these remarkable changes mostly to the bicarbonate, but the creatine has really iced the cake for me.

Should You Measure Your Urine pH and Take Bicarbonate?

This was game-changing for me, but I'm recovering from significant health problems, so it might not be as applicable for you as it has been for me. Still, it's a minor expense of time and money to do some testing with a potentially big payoff.

I'm not ready to recommend a specific protocol, but I can offer some general guidelines:

  • Don't take bicarbonate on a full stomach. If you take it with food, it could hurt your digestion and you're likely to burp much of it up as carbon dioxide rather than absorbing it. Take it at least a couple of hours after your last meal and at least 20 minutes before you eat anything and before you drink anything other than water.
  • Don't take bicarbonate without measuring your urine pH. I pushed myself into alkalosis with too much bicarbonate, so it's important to first make sure you need it and to then titrate up from a small dose to find what brings your urine pH into the 6.4-6.8 range most stably through the day.
  • Be careful with bicarbonate if you have any sign of fungal infection in your GI tract. Some (but not all) fungi thrive in alkaline environments. I don't believe bicarbonate will aggravate fungal infections in the skin and nails because I believe the pH of those areas is largely driven by the local microbial ecology. But bicarbonate will enter your GI tract in a concentrated form that could theoretically aggravate a fungal infection within the GI tract. I want to emphasize that this is a theoretical concern and some fungal pathogens thrive in acidic environments.
  • Don't assume pH is all about bicarbonate. I have more research to do to understand what is at the root of my tendency toward acidosis, but it certainly isn't a deficiency of bicarbonate supplementation. Vegetables, and to a lesser extent fruits, beans, nuts, and milk tend to be alkalinizing, while grains tend to be neutral, and meat, fish, and eggs tend to be acidifying. Acidic drinks like carbonated water can contribute to the acid load. A wide variety of nutrients are needed for proper pH balance, and this includes the zinc you would find most abundantly in animal foods. Metabolic disorders or illnesses could be at the root of pH imbalances, so additional bloodwork and a doctor's guidance are needed if your values are markedly abnormal.

Nevertheless, it's likely that for anyone an intense workout will create pressure on the acid-base balance towards acidity that would be relieved by bicarbonate, so I think it makes sense from a performance perspective to use urine pH to determine how the dose and schedule of bicarbonate might help your workouts.

How I Measured My Urine pH

Here's what I used:

  • Hydrion 5.5-8 pH strips. These correspond to the normal pH of urine and are the main ones I use.
  • Hydrion 3-5.5 pH strips. These are backup strips in case my urine pH falls below 5.5. If the 5.5-8 strips say it is exactly 5.5, I check it with these to make sure it isn't actually lower.
  • Specimen Cups With Lids. I got these partly because I figured they should be optimized for not reacting with the urine in any way that could change the measurements, and partly because I don't want to put urine in anything that serves some other purpose in my place. But, they should probably be considered optional.

You may find other products that are useful — and certainly if I continue this for another month it will turn out to have been more economical to buy a digital pH probe — but at least make sure that if you use pH strips your main strips are in the 5.5-8 range because if the range is broader the results will be less precise.

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Have you ever measured your urine pH? If so, what did you get out of it?

If you measure the pH response to your workouts, let me know what you find in the comments!

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  1. Chris,

    This post is a couple years old. Do you have an update or recommended protocol based on what you know now? I am having muscle weakness, fatigue and twitching or spasms similar to what you described. I became ill from something I have been unable to diagnose but I am on the road to recovery. While I was at my worst I lost 35 lbs, mostly muscle because I was lean to begin with. Now I’ve turned a corner but still dealing with fatigue and spasms and severe exercises intolerance (crashes after exertion).

    Perhaps you’ve done an update that I’m not finding but I would be curious to find out what you recommend given what you know now.


  2. I take saliva pH because it more closely associates what the pH is in the fluids surrounding the cells of the body. Body fluids bath all the cells and carry away the acidic by-products of cellular metabolism. THe pH levels in saliva show the effects of adding Bicarbonate much sooner than the kidneys/urine.

    1. It’s not relevant because the pH of your saliva is not what dictates salicylate excretion, but rather the pH of your urine. Excretion into the urine takes place in your kidney, not your mouth.

      1. We are talking about pH not excretion. The electrical potentional in the bodily fluids determines that ability for certain beneficial chemical reactions to occur. Lactic acid is electrically neutralized and then eventually excreted as an example. I consume a lot of Vitamin C which greatly enhances my physical performace while bicycling 20-40 miles a day.

  3. Hi Chris,
    I really enjoy and appreciate all your articles and videos about nutrition and health. You’ve made great contributions to my knowledge. Thanks.

    Regarding the sodium bicarbonate supplementation, how did you come to the determination that the that the positive effect you’re observing is related to pH status? Is it possible that it’s due to improved sodium status rather higher pH (given that the sodium bicarbonate affects both)? Unless we’re adding salt, a natural whole foods diet is pretty low in sodium and there is a lot of anecdotal evidence that adding sodium (salt) helps people feel and perform better. Friends of mine have experienced much easier workouts and faster recovery after reading and listening to James DiNicolantonio and Robb Wolf about the possible benefits of adding more salt to the diet.

    Curious about your thoughts on this.

    1. A number of things. First of all, I don’t avoid salt at all, so it’s just implausible that I wouldn’t have enough sodium. But mainly, the physiological logic and the pH evidence cited in the post.

  4. Your body’s ph is affected by the food you eat. You are trending to acidosis because you have a crap diet. Stop eating highly processed foods and drastically lower your comsumption of meat, eggs, and cheese (try to get less than 10% of calories from animal products, better to aim for 5% tho). You will then rely less on dosing yourself with bicarb and find that your urine and saliva will often naturally be between 7.0 and 7.5 with only brief dips to below 7.0. To know what effects a particular food will have on your body you need to know the PRAL of each food, this is the Potential Renal Acid Load. Google this and begin to make better food choices. You will be stronger, healthier, have greatly improved recovery times, and higher ph readings in your urine and saliva .

  5. Hi, what is the rationale for saying that the optimal UpH range is between 6.4 – 6.8? Did you arrive at this figures intuitively or has it been established in the medical profession/literature or somewhere that one can look up and read?

    1. The medical labs use a wider range. Lots of anecdotal data from people doing RBTI and things like that, though, and correlates well with major health effects for me.

  6. That’s awesome you found a hack to make exercise possible for you! I was thinking of trying something similar and that is how I came across your article. I have a tendency towards acidosis due to MCAS/histamine intolerance and my diet has helped a lot but when I exercise, then next day I feel a lot of burning and soreness in my muscles (more than it should be for the amount of exercise) and when I measure my urine pH it drops to 5.5. I know that taking anti-inflammatories after a workout interfere with muscle recovery and thus strength building, so I was trying to find out if raising the pH with bicarbonate could have a similar effect? Have you ever noticed anything like that? It seems as far as I can tell, unknown in the scientific literature. Thanks!

  7. The following article in Science Daily reminded me of this post:

    Drinking baking soda could be an inexpensive, safe way to combat autoimmune disease
    A daily dose of baking soda may help reduce the destructive inflammation of autoimmune diseases like rheumatoid arthritis, scientists say.

    April 25, 2018
    Medical College of Georgia at Augusta University
    A daily dose of baking soda may help reduce the destructive inflammation of autoimmune diseases like rheumatoid arthritis, scientists say. They have some of the first evidence of how the cheap, over-the-counter antacid can encourage our spleen to promote instead an anti-inflammatory environment that could be therapeutic in the face of inflammatory disease scientists report.

  8. hi- just wondering if when you were more acidic you were more anxious? just came across this study

    The study in entitled Panic disorder symptoms may be tied to acid-sensing receptor -and says that there is evidence that a pH inbalance disruption in the body, known as acidosis, can unexpectedly cause the panic attack.

    I have anxiety disorder and whenever I have tested my ph it is acidic so maybe there is a connection. Any thoughts? Love your work by the way- trying to make sense of my chronic health issues and your work allows me to get a better handle on whats going on. Thanks!

  9. Chris, thank you so much for your amazing work, truly life changing for some of us! Quick question: I want to experiment with baking soda (I run pretty acidic according to ph strip measurements I did this last month). I however love my IF routine, I work out fasted with only black coffee, creatine and 10g bcaa. Would you recommend I have the bicarbonate before or after coffee? Thanks!

  10. Thank you! This was so refreshing to read! I have had a lot of health problems I believe associated with textured breast implants which caused chronic inflammation as a result of bacterial contamination ( implants now removed). As a result of this health crisis I find myself flattened after heavy physical exertion to the point of needing to sleep. Its very frustrating as I am not able to progress and build muscle because it takes me so long to recover. Earlier this week I took a milk protein shake to the gym with me that contained whey BCAAs and glutamine. For the first time in a long time I had no post workout crash. The crash came 2 days later with poor recovery. I thought it was interesting and did wonder if my one of my shake ingredients assisted with the initial recovery? I will now experiment with my urine ph to see if there is a correlation. Thank you!!

    1. Quite the opposite from my experience. The pH seems to affect the sleep quality … I take baking soda + magnesium (powdered form) in a glass of water before bed and my insomnia faded away and experienced better/deeper sleep. Even the numbness around the bottom of the toes have gone milder.

      Perhaps it’s a vicious cycle – lower pH could affect sleep quality adversely and this itself creates stresses and and worsens sleep quality even more, which you yourself experience. Either way, it demonstrates the importance of pH level to the wellbeing of the system

    1. Hi Pippa Galea,

      I am not Chris Masterjohn but my name is Chris Prebanthum.
      Nevertheless, urine pH is easily reduced by eating some eggs or cheese or beef or cod.

      Good luck,


  11. Hi Chris, thanks for your work. I have been using one teaspoon in 16oz water about 4 years, before/during a workout. I had not tested, it’s a good idea. What works for me, to prevent lactic acid build-up in muscles, is transdermal mag chloride before long intense workouts… Maybe this will be helpful with your future magnesium podcast.

  12. I happened to be experimenting with electrolytes when I came across this post. I can hike 20 miles on an empty stomach (with adequate hydration), but my mind and nervous system sort-of shutdown if I do a short anaerobic workout of moderate to high intensity. This can last a day if I really push it.

    I haven’t tested sodium bicarbonate with anaerobic exercise yet, but I have noticed that it lowers my urine sulphate from the typical 800-1600 mg/L to 0-400 mg/L; first time since I started measuring it a year ago! I’m also dreaming more and enjoying stimulating activities like FPS video games.

    I’m currently looking at Alfred Blasi’s site regarding electrolyte balance and FM/CFS. You might be interested in looking over some of his references. “The acid-base balance: diet and alkaline salts” outlines a protocol for correcting acidity via diet and supplements.

  13. Hey chris, do you not worry about the sodium from baking soda, or does it not work like the sodium from table salt?

    1. Saw where you answered this above, disregard!!

      Another question you could possibly answer, have you encountered any GI distress when using it? I hear it can cause loose stool/gas/bloating (maybe only in higher doses they used for athletes though with 20+ grams).

      1. Sodium bicarbonate gives me gas and bloating if I’m digesting food in my stomach. No problem as long as I take it well away from meals.

  14. I read somewhere that vitamin A helps maintain alkalinity (not sure if this is true). Maybe you need to eat more vitamin-A rich foods because it is probably being used up fighting your mold/fungal infection.

  15. Hi Chris and other fans of Chris. I am a huge fan of staying in touch with what’s going on by simple home-testing as much as we can. It is very empowering. So, loved this post!!

    A few months ago I started drinking 1 TSP of sea salt dissolved in my water and drinking it throughout the day. I have known about this for years and recommended the practice to countless patients but had never done it consistently myself.

    I had had low BP (usually around 100/60) for about 15 years and also had low sodium levels consistently for many years. And my HR recovery time (which everyone should be measuring) when moving from zone3 to zone2 was at least 50-60 seconds.

    Within 5 days of taking the sea salt daily I noticed my recovery time was at about 30 seconds even after 25 minutes of cardio HIIT. This was a shocking change because I had been working out this way consistently for about 2 years with no change in recovery time.

    I measured my BP and it was 118/20!! I was blown away. And now it’s been about 2 months and my recovery time is about 15 seconds and my BP stays around 114/68 pretty consistently.

    So, my point in sharing this is that measuring with simple devices like urine pH or BP or blood sugar or whatever, can be extremely instructive and I think we all should do it more often.

    1. Hi Jill- Thank you for sharing this info? Have you ever figured out why your sodium is low? This has been the case for my dad as well and no Dr has been able to figure out why?

  16. Hey Chris,

    came to similar conclusion based on my own experiences, but prefer to use Vitamin D to counter the acidity. The RBTI guys claim that the body can’t assimilate Vitamin C below 6.4 and can’t use Vitamin D above 6.4. Maybe your fungal infection is related to low vitamin c levels

    I noticed too much baking soda can give people panic attacks.

  17. Just don’t overdo intense exercise.. It’s a hype ! Prefessional athletes have no other jobs and can rest the rest of time.. And even they don’t do intense exercise all the time..

  18. Hi Chris,
    I’m in a similar boat with regards to the mold problem and inability to exert oneself. Sorry to hear that. I look forward to your future writings on the topic.
    This has been a 14 year mystery illness for me, but I finally feel confident with the help I’ve been receiving from the docs at CCFFM.
    Sticking to the topic at hand. I just started testing urine pH after this post came out. I only have a couple of time points so far. Today was the first morning sample and I showed a pH of 7.4-7.6. That seems to be more alkaline than what would be considered normal/optimal. This is also the time of day I typically feel slightly worse. I often wake up feeling unrested with some facial edema, especially during acute episodes. Do you know if it is normal for morning pH to be elevated? Might this contribute to feeling worse at this time? Is it completely context dependent on an individual level given the fact that I know (from current blood work) there is elevated immune activation and an underlying problem?
    Anything you could recommend for bringing it back to within the range which is considered normal in order to see if I notice a change in symptoms? Here’s a little info.
    Male, 33, 5’11”, 175lbs. Consistent sleep, nutrient dense foods, (lots of potatoes, also US Wellness Liverwurst is awesome).

    Chris, I’ve been enjoying your work since about 2010, you’ve really piqued my interest in health and nutritional science, and you have contributed to beneficial changes I’ve made to different lifestyle factors. Thanks for doing the work your doing, I hope to meet you in person someday.
    Have a great weekend,

  19. My morning urine is 6.2 or greater unless I’ve had a mast cell reaction (release of inflammatory mediators) over night and then would be 5.5 or lower. After I’ve been awake for a while, either working or working out, and before I eat, urine pH is always greater than 7.6 and remains so the rest of the day. My diet is heavy on vegetables, and light on grains and animal products.
    When I was on a three food elimination diet (the only foods I could tolerate were goat milk, boiled chicken legs and plain oatmeal), my pH was consistently acidic. My understanding is that sulfur amino acids contribute to the acid load, and these 3 foods, in particular the oatmeal, are high in sulfur amino acids. In time, as my vegetables increased and the other components decreased, my urine pH increased.

  20. Great article – Thanks!
    Toxic barium??? How/where?
    Mold is very insidious – pls. share how you discovered this was the reason (any symptoms)? One doesn’t usually look at the floor planks or walls, and if one gets a mold test kit, there’s bound to be some growth after a while, spores from the air. Scary.

      1. Hi Chris,
        Do you have any recommendations for practitioners in NYC or Long Island to confirm a mold toxicity diagnosis and work toward treating it? I have a doctor who suspects this is the issue based on some blood work but says it is out of his scope of practice and that I should find someone more knowledgeable to work with.


  21. Hey Chris. Try experimenting with nose only breathing during exercise. Avoiding hyperventilation and excessive CO2 loss has the most significant effect on pH. See McKeown’s work, The Oxygen Advantage. Cheers.

  22. Great article…

    This experiment is something I can relate to, but done on such a better level with much better understanding of what’s in play.

    Do to long term health challenges, I can have unpredictable days of PEM from even simple activity, not to mention from exercise experiences. Baking soda has allowed me to experience big shifts in my physical activity at times.

    Like, from pedaling a bike in the gym or doing a set of weights being quite difficult w/the body never shifting out of tight muscles, or rarely sweating, to using baking soda and getting a good sweat and an invigorating feeling from the workout. I just hadn’t dialed in the full why’s yet or how to fine tune it predictably, but there’s definitely a positive pattern that shows up around it.

    So happy to see you diving it.

  23. Are you taking sodium bicarb or potassium bicarb? I’m wondering how the bicarb dosing is effecting Na/K balance given you’ve said you also have issues with that.

    1. Sodium bicarbonate. I don’t really believe sodium and potassium in the diet — or any other mineral ratio for that matter — need to be tightly controlled. Sodium excess is a problem in potassium deficiency but I don’t think that means you need a particular ratio. In any case, it reduces, if anything, my need for potassium.

  24. Hi Chris,

    Very interesting. I have been keto for the last 3 months, and I do alot of running. Recently I have been crashing after a long run – not like carb crashing with hypo – that has stopped happening altogether – but now I get like what you described – incredible lethargy where I can’t continue to function, extreme tiredness.
    I read about some top athletes that would take bicarb prior to a race to minimise the acidifying effects of the race. I have ordered some test strips and hope fixing my ph will mitigate the after effects of an intense workout. Will let you know if I find some low values.

  25. I did pH testing many years ago seeing if the foods I ate made a difference. I got the highest pH readings after eating watermelon. Cannot remember which foods gave me the lowest readings which ranged from 5.5 to 8.

  26. I measure my pH every morning! I am age 60 and diagnosed with osteoporosis and I found the web site “Better Bones” most helpful in working towards an alkaline urine level. Eating too much protein pushes my blood towards acidic and the body has to pull calcium from bones in order to buffer back toward neutral. Diet has a big impact on this buffer system. Some medications can impact it also. I found that taking DGL (deglycyrrhizinated Licorice) and also my iodine supplement made it more difficult to stay alkaline. I have discontinued these. I did not know that exercise can impact pH, so I will have to watch for that! I stay mostly 6.0-6.8. A bad day will drop me to 5 and a really good day is upwards of 7.0! Eggs at dinner time are a killer!

    1. Interesting! Iodine makes my muscles super tight, especially my QL muscles above my hip. I had to stop the iodine. I tried it twice and and had the same reaction both times.

  27. And I will share with you also. As a diabetic, I was surprised that diabetes ALSO creates an acidic condition that is NOT the maximum health status so I also add a little bicarb of soda to my daily gallon of drink and that has improved my urine pH and it no longer has a mild burning feeling upon occasion. Plus my blood sugars improved without additional dietary changes. This was NEVER taught to me in my graduate class or biochemistry or diabetes management learning situation at all and I’ve been diabetic for some 26 years. Amazing how the pH of the body is really very ignored. Glad you brought it up if even just from your experiences and not from a general edification aspect. It still helps. I have learned how underappreciated the body pH is.

    1. I have been thinking this too. But also drinking a lot of water, say 3 liters per day could be very helpful.

      It may be that for most people, the dietary potassium (K) and phosphorus (P) will have the most impact on the overall acid/base balance, at least as measured by the potential renal acid load calculations (which is not a great measurement). And just getting the K/P ratio to 3-4 (which is closer to human milk and average hunter gatherer diets), or higher, could potentially cure some cases of diabetes. In practice this is easy to achieve by replacing whole grains with potatoes/tubers and fruits, and avoid or reduce dairy product intake.

      For example in Tim Steele´s «potato hack» book, a study from 1903 is mentioned where people were «cured» of diabetes by eating large amounts of potatoes (6 pounds per day). In another experiment, native Hawaiians ate a diet with 150-200 gram chicken/fish and most of the rest of the calories (ad libitum) from tubers and some fruits and greens, and they saw an average decline in glucose from 8.99 to 6.86 (-24%) in just three weeks. This diet is very similar to the diet that was consumed by the Kitavans in Papua New Guinea when they were free of modern disease, based on Staffan Lindeberg et al´s research.

      A problem with the «mediterranean» diets and other «healthy» diets recommended by dietitians is that they are usually high in low fat dairy and whole grains and have a suboptimal K/P ratio, sometimes just 1.5-2. In a small trial, when such a «mediterranean» diet was compared with a paleo diet (approx K/P ratio of 3-4) over 12 weeks, the paleo diet group saw a normalization of 2h blood glucose (-26%), while the mediterranean diet group saw little improvements (-7%) (

      Some other diets like Walter Kempner´s (1903-1997) rice diet (white rice, sucrose, fruit, fruit juice, vitamins and iron), also cured diabetes in some cases, and this too had a very high K/P ratio. There are obviously much more to these diets than just the high K/P ratio, for example they are also low in calcium, salt and fat. But I think it´s wise for diabetics to cut back on phosphorus. A recent study ( found that «High dietary phosphorus density is associated with an increased risk of CKD development in DM patients with normal renal function». This makes the point that the diet prescribed for diabetics high in whole grains and low fat dairy products, may do more harm than good.

    2. Hi Judith- I just listen to a podcast by Luke Storey. He interviewed Mark Sircus about Bicarb and the benefits! You may want to check it out.

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