In this episode, I have a fascinating 3-hour conversation with Dr. Jessica Rose about all things related to COVID vaccines, ranging from interpreting the VAERS data to the future of mandatory prophylactic gene therapy. 

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If you follow Dr. Rose on her web site or YouTube channel, she is first and foremost an analyst of the adverse event reporting system. If you follow her substack, her bio is simple: “I am a dissident.”

Her academic bio emphasizes her expertise in biology and immunology:

Dr. Jessica Rose is a Canadian researcher with a Bachelor’s degree in Applied Mathematics and a Master’s degree in Immunology from Memorial University of Newfoundland. She also holds a PhD in Computational Biology from Bar Ilan University and 2 post-doctoral degrees: one in Molecular Biology from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem and one in Biochemistry from the Technion Institute of Technology. She was also accepted for a 2-month program as a senior researcher at the Weizmann Institute prior to completion of her latest post doctoral degree at the Technion.  

Important Links

Her CV is rich in published work on infectious diseases:

She plays advisory roles in the Canadian organization Take Back Our Freedoms:

She is also involved with Geert Vanden Bossche's Voice for Science and Solidarity:

The three most important ways to keep up with her work are her web site, substack, and YouTube channel:

This is her currently withdrawn paper on myocarditis:


This is her critical appraisal of VAERS as a pharmacovigilence tool:

Time Stamps

07:25 The interview starts

08:27 Her academic background

25:09 How she started analyzing VAERS data

31:14 Were the mandates a surprise or expected?

31:34 Raw milk persecution, Rawsome raids, National Animal Identification System, swine flu microchips and forced quarantining laws

38:45 Interpreting VAERS: how do we think about underreporting, overreporting, stimulated reporting, and causality?

52:08 Total adverse events are continuing to accumulate at the same rate even though the rollout is tapering, breakthrough infections, female reproduction issues

56:38 John Su misrepresents the data on 5-11-year-olds at CDC meeting

01:03:02 Hiding the children injected illegally

1:08:52 Severe adverse events in 5-11-year-olds

1:15:37 Back when 50 VAERS deaths would take a product off the market

1:18:04 We should be more cautious, not less cautious, when the data is poor quality

1:21:00 Hiding the all-cause mortality data

1:26:51 Can you get COVID twice? And what does it mean, exactly, to “get” COVID?

1:48:37 Widespread low-level inflammation throughout the population

1:53:14 Can the spike protein be written to the human genome?

1:57:31 Why is the risk/reward ratio so much worse for kids?

2:03:57 The effect of the vaccines on viral evolution in the era of omicron

2:12:18 Do we have an epidemic of hospitalizations for PCR-negative COVID-like illness in fully vaccinated people?

2:16:13 The saga of the retracted paper

2:20:14 Most myocarditis is severe by standard definition

2:27:13 Two approaches to language in peer-reviewed papers: raw honesty vs deference to the narrative.

2:32:58 What is a “vaccine” and are these injections technically vaccines?

2:42:48 The importance of precision

2:45:20 The potential future of widespread or even mandatory prophylactic gene therapy

2:50:00 Why risk-reward is the wrong way to thing about the vaccines

2:56:36 Blood transfusions and shedding

3:01:57 Her advice as a concerned citizen of the human species to us as we enter into a world wherein we are rapidly losing our freedoms.

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  1. quote of the year:
    “if it’s not reproducible, it’s shit”
    great job, Jessica.

  2. One of the top male athletes in Canada in 2021 got a mild case of myocarditis, Alphonso Davies. He received his booster in December according to the new report. Andre De Grasse (Olympic sprinter), Damian Warner (Olympic decathlon) and Alphonso Davies (all-star member of Europe, Bayern Munich regular) are among the favourites to win the 2021 Lou Marsh Trophy for best male athlete of the year.

  3. I’m commenting here, as I’ve been put in YT jail for past “wrongthink” comments regarding the c-word, LOL. Enjoyed this video very much and the wide range of discussion points covered. One thought I had about your first bout of illness and the symptoms you detailed. In the winter of 2018 from Dec. through end of February 2019 my spouse and I both got very severely ill with a flu we nicknamed “the black plague”. Neither of us really get the flu, but this was unbelievable. The convulsive shivering, raging fever, blinding headache, absolute exhaustion to the point of struggling to get out of bed, and weeks of no taste and smell, and persistent coughing were torturous. When Covid hit we both said OMG, look at these symptoms….it sounded identical to the symptoms we had. Was it possible that there was another serious SARS virus circulating prior to, or for a time overlapping Covid?

    1. Yeah, me too, here in Italy : 6 days in bed I told my friends I had food poisoning that became bronchitis but settled on the flu as my ‘diagnosis’ it went through all 4 of us one by one. Suspicion is that it may have been covid …

  4. I got an email from here about the Washington rally coming up, and thought ‘I haven’t been to see what Dr. Masterjohn is up to in forever, I’m gunna go look. I wonder if he’s got a substack? Hmm…’ And then, what do I stumble on but Dr. Masterjohn and Dr. Rose having a chit chat? Christmas is a few days late this year, appearantly. 😂

  5. It’s very hard to extrapolate what you are saying when most of certain words are censored. At the beginning of the video you claim that you had posted a link to an uncensored version but I don’t see it. Can you post the uncensored version? Thanks, Jim Olson

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